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sweetmelissa589

@Conceited   I was on 140mg m3th a day for 4 years and very slowly weaned to 25 mg.  zThat's the dod3 they need you to be on to make the transition.  After that, you must be on 24 to 48 of nothing to begine taking subut3x.  I was then swiched, after 2 weeks to subox0n3, which made me feel terrible, so they put me back on subut3x.  It was so hard.  Anything below 80 mg.. I stryggled hard.  I dont want to take anything everyday any more either.  I' so sick of it.  I've been mostlt focusing on b3nz0 rc's for my SA and GAD.  things are oking out okay, but I have brutally depression.  Doc just started me on Trint3llix 5 mg a day.. we'll see haow it goes.. But I reading a lot of stories about it making their anxiety worst, which she promisd me it wouldn't.  Anyway, sorry for all the misspellings.. Im cl,ed out and don't have the patience right nwo to fix everything..lol.

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Conceited

@Dickslapperman i've never really noticed any negative effects from a stable dose of either suby or mdone. Might be because i often abused both because the H was shit and couldn't get anything else consistently that would leave you high as a kite. And most of the time i got it all free.

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Conceited

@sweetmelissa589 i thought it was aroud 20-30 to switch. I heard people wait longer than 24-48 hours though before using subtx. Literally about 5-7 days. Maybe it's different how long it takes people to get the shit out their system.

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sweetmelissa589

@Conceited  I switched at 25.mg and thank goodness, I don't think here was anyway I could have waited 7 days!  By the next mornign, I was having goosebumps, enlarged pupils, and high tempurature.   It was unbearable at just 1/2 days. I am a fast metabolizer, so much so that after taking my dos3, I was sick by dinner time.  I couldn't sleep. or eat and it was so hard to even get ready in the morning to drive to get my next dos3.  I've head of people forgetting to take their daily dose..  I use so confused at at all this.... why I was so sick waiting for my next dos3. My doctor explained to me that a handful of people or just fast metabilizers  and that they to used have keep them come in twice a day to dose.. that is, after they had their blood work showing their levels going down.  When I was there, that program has ended and I suffered.   Hence the switch to subut3x.. 

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Dickslapperman

@sweetmelissa589  I went down to 30 for about ten days the first 5 days sucked but I had some liquid codeine to ease then next day after my last dose of methadond I went to suboxone no problem was on it for almost two years I got out of jail and I was always sick and had to go be a methadone junkie

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@sweetmelissa589 There's been times I have nearly forgot to take my dose. Ever since starting a script I took it at 10am every day for 3 years. I new what time it was without looking at the clock because i'd start feeling weird. Shouldn't really because it should hold you more than 24hours. So i decided to change the time i take it till the afternoon between 4pm and 6pm. Since doing that there's been times i missed that window and it gets to about 8pm and i think to myself have I took my dose today. Then my brain starts sending me into that weird feeling so i measure what i got to make sure im not double dosing that day. Now when i get that feeling i know i missed that time slot. Its messed up how your body clock goes from knowing when to taking it and a simple change messes it up to the point im forgetting to take. I've never missed a whole day though. 

Don't think i'll switch over to subys because if i got to go 7 days without mdone before using suby I may as well commit to coming straight off. Plus the prescriber doesn't really like doing it, though it's my choice if i want to. She will just come out with negative stuff and put you off switching. I've made my bed now got to lie in it. Addiction is a mother fucker.  

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Uknewcastleguy

I myself was on methdone for about 4 years. I was a raving junkie and had tried everything to get clean, doing rattles, tapering down, swapping H for benzo 's, rehab/detox. And nothing worked, I would get a small amount of clean time, 4 weeks at most, and then pick up right where i left off. It was a cycle of addiction that i just couldn't break, no matter what I tried. Anyway after exhausting all possible avenues to get clean, the only other option available to me was H replacement treatment, either meth or subox. And although I wanted to get clean, I was a addict! I knew if i opted for subox the naloxon would stop me from using H and getting high, so despite all the horror stories, and knowing people who were in a worse position since starting a meth script, I chose meth anyway.   

I'm in the UK, so I went to the drug clinic and got on meth. They asked me what I was using each day, and from that they estimated how much I would need everyday. They said i would need to be on between 90-120mg a day!!! So the first week they started me on 30mg and pushed it up 10mg every 5 days. However the whole time this process was happening I was still taking the same amount of H daily as before I started, Anyway when I reached 60mg a day I had a review, knowing how hard meth is to get off, i said I didn't want to go any higher, and I'd like to stay at 60mg and not go higher. But because I was still using and provided a dirty sample, they were adamant i should keep raising the dose, but I stuck to my guns, and started giving clean samples, or blagging/faking the test and continued on 60mg whilst still using intermittently.

After being on meth for about 2 years and still using H occasionally, probably every other day. I moved out of the area where I grew up to go live with family up North, where I had no connections or people I know, and finally kicked H altogether, and just took my 60mg of meth everyday. After 6 months of clean samples i gradually lowered my dose by 5mg every 2 months, and to be honest, I didn't get that many withdrawal symptoms, the only thing I vividly remember is waking up in the morning and feeling terrible till I had my dose. After a year of reducing i got down to 30mg a day and I was given 3 options...

Keep gradually reducing down, and it would most likely take around 2 years to get off.

Quit cold turkey and go into residential rehab for 100 days.

Or quit cold turkey, but take a drug called lefexodine. Which I was told would make the withdrawal a breeze, and I could easily detox at home with little to know withdrawal symptoms.

Obviously i chose the lefexodine option, as it sounded so easy and quick, with the least amount of pain and discomfort. Unfortunately that wasn't the case, the withdrawal was hellish!! The most intense physical symptoms, which are associated with opiates lasted about 6-8 weeks, but the insomnia, depression and anxiety lasted around 6 months!! It was unbearable, I didn't feel my normal self till about a year after coming off, and within that year I put alot of work in rewiring my mind, body and soul. It was intense! It felt like it would never end.

It's now been 3 years, and My life is pretty much back to normal. I still face challenges mentally and behaviour wise, but I'm in a better place. I have attended NA on and off, seen multiple psychiatrists, done CBT and I'm now on antidepressants. I do take drugs and drink every now and again, but there not the main focus of my life anymore, I can take them or leave them, and I always employ moderation in anything i take pleasure from.

I guess what I'm saying is meth should be a last resort, after you have exhausted all other possible avenues to get clean. And if you do have to go on meth, stay on as lower dose as possible, and treat it with respect. just know that eventually at some point your going have to get off meth too. Getting off meth was one of the hardest things I've ever done, and I've withdrawn off a lot of different substances. However for all the negatives, meth allowed me to rebuild My life and get back on track. And when it did come time to get off. i was a lot more prepared to do so, as I had sorted my life out whilst I was on it, and built a strong support network. Despite all the issues I have with meth, it also most likely saved my life!

 

I might of deviated from the discussion on this thread. But I just wanted to share my personal experience. In the hope that it will enlighten others who are in a similar predicament.

 

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