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theone8399

You are right @Jools about Portugal. I believe it's Portugal anyways. They had a huge heroin problem. They legalized all drugs and poured money into getting people jobs and fun things to do outside of drugs. They've had huge success in this because people there are doing other things that make them happy. When that happiness is found we don't need that high we chase but can never get back too. Now I'm talking high, not medically needed medicines. That is a different story. There are medicines people do need for pain and mental problems. But for those chasing the high they've had great success decriminalizing drugs and finding pouring money into programs to help addicts. 

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ElectroNymph
On 15/07/2016 at 6:14 PM, foggy21 said:

Please delete this if inappropriate.  As there are less and less reliable IOPS around,  has anyone in the UK had any seizures? I am talking specifically about PPU2E.  I had a seizure after ordering from TTM although that was a couple of years ago and vowed never to order from SA again. I also had a seizure from India so I keep away from those two countries. I would really appreciate UK members experiences from other UK members. Thanks in advance.

I have never has a seizure from ZSA either. In two years the only package missing was from SS4U, based in India, I think. Glad that they are blacklisted now!

Oops, already answered this one - we need more threads - someone call the thread police!

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abeksR

im about to place an order with PP E 2U and i know theyre based in South Africa , i think at least . 

really hoping my order will make it thru the strict Australian Customs :unsure: !

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Purplepumpkins
On 1/6/2017 at 4:42 PM, abeksR said:

im about to place an order with PP E 2U and i know theyre based in South Africa , i think at least . 

really hoping my order will make it thru the strict Australian Customs :unsure: !

Ppe is wonderful, just be prepaired for possible crushed meds. That is just my experience. 

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CodyKowl
On 8/23/2016 at 6:16 PM, CodyKowl said:

Greetings from across the pond. I was a TTM customer for a few years and only had one LL in the many many successful orders. That seizure came during Operation Pangea in 2014. After that seizure I must have received at least 3 additional LL from U.S. Customs for TTM shipments and  stopped using TTM. I researched the vendor region (SA) and my regional Governing agency (U.S. Customs) trying to find some link or reason why TTM packages were being seized but it was a global problem and not worth the risk using this vendor.

I've been using PPE for a few years, doc is solid. Never an issue with vendor, product or Governing agency. (PPE is also in the same region SA)

 I see a joint task force just concluded Operation Pangea IX in June including the U.S. FDA and Interpol. This is an interesting read:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/online-sale-fake-medicines-and-products-targeted-operation-pangea-ix

http://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas/Pharmaceutical-crime/Operations/Operation-Pangea

In light of recent events this seemed like a thread worthy of resurrection. 

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RC_researcher79
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South Africa suppliers...what a super rare Thing.

My only hope to find a med named: Diconal, Wellconal.

it's a super rare opiates (Dipipanone) , and sadly available only in this Country.

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Trevor88
On 8/23/2016 at 5:16 PM, CodyKowl said:

Greetings from across the pond. I was a TTM customer for a few years and only had one LL in the many many successful orders. That seizure came during Operation Pangea in 2014. After that seizure I must have received at least 3 additional LL from U.S. Customs for TTM shipments and  stopped using TTM. I researched the vendor region (SA) and my regional Governing agency (U.S. Customs) trying to find some link or reason why TTM packages were being seized but it was a global problem and not worth the risk using this vendor.

I've been using PPE for a few years, doc is solid. Never an issue with vendor, product or Governing agency. (PPE is also in the same region SA)

 I see a joint task force just concluded Operation Pangea IX in June including the U.S. FDA and Interpol. This is an interesting read:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/online-sale-fake-medicines-and-products-targeted-operation-pangea-ix

http://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas/Pharmaceutical-crime/Operations/Operation-Pangea

I know this comment is super late and of little value to anyone but I noticed in this article it said customs searched some 334,000 packages and that they seized like 170,000 of them but if you do the simple math on that it would mean they seized half of the packages they searched. I find it hard to believe that they found reason(s) to seize half of the packages/letters that they searched. That would mean 50% of the mail that day had illicit items. Whhhhhhhaaat?

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Conceited
50 minutes ago, Trevor88 said:

I know this comment is super late and of little value to anyone but I noticed in this article it said customs searched some 334,000 packages and that they seized like 170,000 of them but if you do the simple math on that it would mean they seized half of the packages they searched. I find it hard to believe that they found reason(s) to seize half of the packages/letters that they searched. That would mean 50% of the mail that day had illicit items. Whhhhhhhaaat?

That sound like bs. Probably figures they pulled out their  ass to make it look like they are clamping down. When ttm and ppe where around you hardly ever heard about a seizures or LL. Don't know rember how many times i tried and was successful. Maybe towards the end of south African vendors reign there were LL. They did keep banging on about the postal service always being on strike. That's when people started going else where. I do miss the b3t@P@ms though.

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bdz
5 hours ago, Conceited said:

That sound like bs. Probably figures they pulled out their  ass to make it look like they are clamping down. When ttm and ppe where around you hardly ever heard about a seizures or LL. Don't know rember how many times i tried and was successful. Maybe towards the end of south African vendors reign there were LL. They did keep banging on about the postal service always being on strike. That's when people started going else where. I do miss the b3t@P@ms though.

Still got my 5mg betas, albeit expired this past January.  I'd stockpiled due to all that SAPO rubbish.  For 10's, all I had were the Pax, but if I break 1 in 1/2 for my 5mg dose, it doesn't seem to work as well as the beta 5.  Same expiry date on my 10s as the 5s. I  used to get the pax 5s, and dovals, and they were heaps better than my country's mylan generics.

*Sigh*  Remember how much more affordable all SA's benzos were?  Now more scammers and overpriced iops have come out of  the woodwork.  Who else even carried CMD?  Those were cool, and  looked pretty, like old fashioned barbs.😭 RIP, ttm/utc and ppe.

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Conceited

@bdz i never really got on with p@x 10's. 2 b3t@P@ms were definitely better then one p@x 10, probably better then any other diaz product. I did have several packs but they gone now. Thought ttm or ppe would come back, so didn't treasurer them haha.The myl@n A(Ps were good for the price to have as a back up. They couldn't be beaten on prices.

Rip ttm and ppe haha. It's not funny i would cry else ha

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Trevor88
On 9/7/2019 at 8:24 PM, Conceited said:

That sound like bs. Probably figures they pulled out their  ass to make it look like they are clamping down. When ttm and ppe where around you hardly ever heard about a seizures or LL. Don't know rember how many times i tried and was successful. Maybe towards the end of south African vendors reign there were LL. They did keep banging on about the postal service always being on strike. That's when people started going else where. I do miss the b3t@P@ms though.

Yes, they weren't the speediest but if you timed your orders right they were pretty consistent and dependable. I miss the b3t@p@ms and the 2millyGee Pfizer @lps! And while we are on the subject those Mylan @lps were heaps better than the American version!

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Conceited

@Trevor88 it was normally 7-14 day wait. More often then not it was within 7 days. It was never really an issue waiting 14 days . Just made sure to have at least 1 month back up. There were always other reliable places to go too. When the strikes started.

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bdz
On 9/9/2019 at 1:46 PM, Trevor88 said:

Yes, they weren't the speediest but if you timed your orders right they were pretty consistent and dependable. I miss the b3t@p@ms and the 2millyGee Pfizer @lps! And while we are on the subject those Mylan @lps were heaps better than the American version!

American Mylan makes the worst benzos hands down!  O.T.:  I had a F2F today, had to plead my case like some kind of drug abusing thrill-seeker, for a script for dalmane...I wish'd I'd just come home first and done some online research before heading out to the pharmacy, but wanted to fill another from the same day from the dermatologist, anyway, it turns out that Mylan is not only the only generic mfgr. here for fluraz, but brand Dalmane isn't made anymore...and even w/the Mylans, there's a shortage. Tried samples from SA, 15's, but needed 30 due to tolerance.  Not too keen on it, but at least it wasn't American Mylan...maybe they're violating anti-trust laws here w/their monopoly on this med. Hmm.  Anyway, the pill doc gave me the 3rd degree about trying to get all these various hypnotics (2nd visit there, and in my state, there's something called the CURES act that's a horrendous invasion of privacy (land of the free, my arse!), so I had to do a whole lot of SWIMming to explain that I'd already tried them and how, but never mentioned IOPs, just a friend of a friend having a connection and all that shit.  I felt like a defendant being interrogated by the prosecuting attorney.  Barely got the script, but he only wrote for 15's, and of course, no refills.  Haven't filled it yet, but I guess just for occasional dosing, U.S. Mylan fluraz is better than none at all after all the trouble I went to to get written. Of course, once filled, I'll have 2 at a time.

If there wasn't such a war on even pharmeceutical drugs, high healthcare or big pharma costs, and really shitty domestic generics here, many of us wouldn't need to bother w/IOPs.

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