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Anyone ever take Diclofenac?

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Hammerblow
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Hey 

Diclofenac is a NSAID (non steroidal anti inflammatory drug Voltarol, ibuprofen) Taken over a long period of time can have server health risks.  Read up on Dr Rhonda Patrick. The statistics are frightening, Risk of heart attacks increase by 50%, inhibits muscle growth 2 fold. 

multiple studies have now linked chronic use of these painkillers with an increased risk of heart attack and stroke. They mechanisms appear to be mediated through the inhibition of an enzyme known as Cox 2. There have been a couple of mechanisms investigated in animal studies. First, NSAIDs have been shown to inhibit the production of a molecule called prostacyclin that relaxes blood vessels and “unglues” platelets. Second, they have been shown to inhibit the production of nitric oxide (which cox 2 also regulates to some degree).

Other studies have shown that people taking 2 grams of phytosomal curcumin (called Meriva) had pain reduction equivalent to 800 mg of ibuprofen. Another randomized, placebo-controlled trial found 600 mg of ibuprofen per day for 1.5 months induced hypogonadism in men as measured by a 23% decrease in free testosterone/LH ratio.

This is before we even being to mention the effects it has on the gut microbiome and liver. And the multiple studies of athletes who used it every for inflammation who now feel better than ever

It’s a poor outdated drug kept alive by pharmaceutical companies for profit. There’s far greater natural alternatives (no hippy shit) just science CBD OIL psycho and non psycho active has been proven to be better for inflammation.

sorry for the rant

peace ✌️

Rx

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SaintAlien

ER Dr scripted this and the warnings scare me.  I don't want to take it with the valium and other shit they have me on if it's going to make me sleepy aka wreck while driving or fail to take care of my kid.  I get a lot of stomach issues from relaxers and wondered if people had it with this

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Tranaxfan

Funny you mention it. No one I talk to knows what this stuff is. I took it for a couple of days to help me with a muscle spasm or sprain. Got it in Africa w/out a prescription as I was travelling there. I took it with lots of beer (it was hot where I was ;-)) This was already a few years ago but I didn't notice any extra sleepyness or upset stomach. I do believe it is recommended to take on a full stomach. It worked great for me. I was unable to lift my left arm and after taking it for three days 3x a day the spasm/sprain has passed. I have also taken soma, but this stuff I believe is also an anti-inflammatory unlike soma. I would use it again but would indeed be cautious if combining with V@ls, as they both have muscle relaxing properties.

 

 

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SaintAlien

Okay thanks.  I had never ever wrote a script for this for a patient and I don't like taking muscle relaxers (even soma sometimes) because I feel weird and groggy + nauseated. I don't drink and if I do it's super rare - it says all over the bottle that alcohol w/ this is highly dangerous so I'm assuming it gives you blackouts when combined.  

I just wish my damn meds would arrive and then I can sleep and chill because it's been awful

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VII
On 4/12/2016 at 0:02 PM, SaintAlien said:

Okay thanks.  I had never ever wrote a script for this for a patient and I don't like taking muscle relaxers (even soma sometimes) because I feel weird and groggy + nauseated. I don't drink and if I do it's super rare - it says all over the bottle that alcohol w/ this is highly dangerous so I'm assuming it gives you blackouts when combined.  

I just wish my damn meds would arrive and then I can sleep and chill because it's been awful

I know this does not relate to the relaxer you're talking about but have you been on Tizanidine? It's a fantastic relaxer, everyone that I've known that uses it hasn't experienced such symptoms of grogginess or becoming nauseated. However, everyone is different. Just throwing that out there that it might be something you want to look into seeing it's effective, might cost more than other relaxers but it does the job right for the most part with little to no side effects for the majority of people who consume this particular medication.

Once again, this is a personal experience and personal opinion which may not apply to you - perhaps you have a strange reaction to relaxers as I have strange reactions to any anti-depressants. Who knows, but hope this helped and best of luck to you. I know it's rough, but hang in there.

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SaintAlien

Funny you should mention SSRI's - I cannot take them either (causes mania in me with other exasperated issues), I do know what that is but I won't post it on the board.  All I can suggest is to get a psych evaluation that's full. Your answer is there unless you're talking allergic.

I have had Tizanidine and I recall it being the "go to" for me but it disagreed with me still, no where near as bas as others.  I have taken the med I asked about and slept with no noted side effects other than next day belly pain in the am. I would recommend it to anyone who has had ill effects from other or all muscle relaxers.  It's just like soma, although less "coma". 

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VII
1 hour ago, SaintAlien said:

Funny you should mention SSRI's - I cannot take them either (causes mania in me with other exasperated issues), I do know what that is but I won't post it on the board.  All I can suggest is to get a psych evaluation that's full. Your answer is there unless you're talking allergic.

I have had Tizanidine and I recall it being the "go to" for me but it disagreed with me still, no where near as bas as others.  I have taken the med I asked about and slept with no noted side effects other than next day belly pain in the am. I would recommend it to anyone who has had ill effects from other or all muscle relaxers.  It's just like soma, although less "coma". 

It might be somewhat along the lines of being allergic to the medications, that or having some psychological issue with them that cause strange uncontrollable body issues. I'll keep that noted and ask my next psychiatrist about this due to the fact such a thing can't be taken lightly - perhaps there's more to it that they can actually see with just a glimpse.

Yeah it sounds like your body has a generalized reaction to specific revilers. What helps me personally a lot (I do have an anxiety disorder and fibromyalgia) ironically are weaker benzos, not the heavier ones. Seeing they do relax the body I do tend to feel the muscles in my body expand apposed from being tight and tinder which causes pain. I don't think the class of medication is even designed for that but if your body is relaxed it might help, I'm not fully sure ma'am, just thought I'd throw some ideas out there seeing you do indeed have some strange reaction to a handful of the drugs in the relaxer class. Could be as simple as a small active ingredient inside most of the relaxers that you're getting these strange reactions to. 

Might need to look into a different class of medications if you haven't already, however I would love to hear your experience with Diclo when the time comes. Might help others understand the brand, manufacture, strength, and personal use of it.

I wish I knew the answer to resolve the issue so you didn't have to go through all of this. However if Diclo doesn't do the trick you may need to see a specialist regarding that due to the fact if the class of medication provides negative reactions apposed from positive there's always alternatives. Best to seek professional advice about that, however what I stated above could potentially help in the meantime as long as you understand what the medications are and how to take them properly; basically not abusing them but to get to a point where your body is less stressed. 

Very habit forming indeed, but I guess what works for one may not work for another. I've been seeking another relaxer but I can't really find one myself that I don't have either a strange reaction to or it just doesn't work as intended as if I have some immunity to the medication. I'm not sure if you've encountered that issue or not where the relaxers feel like they do absolutely nothing even if it just came from a pharmacy but it's really strange none the less.

You're not alone here, we may have different issues with our muscles but I do understand what you're going through. I sometimes wish I could just take everyone's pain and just direct it to me - granted, that's impossible for obvious reasons but none the less I hate to see such kind people going through these types of things. I know you don't deserve what's going on with the bodily reactions to these medications but there's bound to be an answer, hopefully we'll find out soon enough. 

Always remember, we're all here for you. New users and even the old, we're still all human beings behind this screen and I honestly wish I could give you a hug. I know it wouldn't help the situation but I can't express how sorry I am that you're going through this. I'll be here for you along the way - stick in there for us and we'll manage to pull through one way or another. ^_^

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SaintAlien

Im off to the physical therapist  so early I hate it - but seriously no other choice.  Regarding the ssri's,  I have an issue called RAD from childhood.  They tried every ssri and other forms to "help" but it caused mania that was frightening. I cannot take them - I have severe ptsd. 

I have low dose valium for my back which oddly makes me so tired I can' deal and helps a lot.  The relaxer works too (in combo), I just don't take either often.  I have my results back from Xrays and I'm fused from t-6 - t-10 or t-11 :( 

Anyways it's super early and I must take meds and get ready for my evaul!

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1 hour ago, SaintAlien said:

Im off to the physical therapist  so early I hate it - but seriously no other choice.  Regarding the ssri's,  I have an issue called RAD from childhood.  They tried every ssri and other forms to "help" but it caused mania that was frightening. I cannot take them - I have severe ptsd. 

I have low dose valium for my back which oddly makes me so tired I can' deal and helps a lot.  The relaxer works too (in combo), I just don't take either often.  I have my results back from Xrays and I'm fused from t-6 - t-10 or t-11 :( 

Anyways it's super early and I must take meds and get ready for my evaul!

I hope you have a safe trip to your therapist. It does help a bit especially with PTSD but it's really difficult to talk a person through PTSD. You may need to see a psychiatrist about treating PTSD instead if you already haven't.

Strange, I've never heard of doctors giving Valium for back pain, I've never experienced it to be a pain killer of any sort. Perhaps relaxing the muscles if that's what you meant, that would make more sense. 

I wish you the best of luck, Saint. Stay in touch and keep us updated. We all here at DBG care about you, remember that. 

Regards,

-VII

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SaintAlien
3 hours ago, Daxcat said:

Yes, the dzpm is given to stop spasming of the muscle it's quite common.

Diclofenac I believe is more a abdominal treatingmed.x.

Yep - that's why I am Rx'd those two

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Musclemare

I've been taking Diclofenac sodium for a few months for joint pain. It hasn't helped with relaxing my muscles

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On 2017-4-21 at 6:15 PM, Musclemare said:

I've taken them when my knees have had fluid in them due to my job.They gave me the (trots) ew and made me feel sick with an upset stomach.Nxt time suppositories are the way to go me thinks!!.

Peace 

Bliss.....

 

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Linx

you might as well take high dose ibuoprofen. It is a slightly better anti-inflammatory. Mg per mg stronger.

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RedGypsy

I realize this is an older thread, but I agree with Linx. I took them for a little while before I had my total knee replacement, and they did help with the pain a little. They are an NSAID, that is supposed to be especially helpful for osteoarthritis. They bothered my stomach, so I didn't take them long, I just went back to Motrin & Tramadol. One thing, do not drink alcohol on this Rx, you will puke your guts out if you have a sensitive stomach. Over all I give this shite 2 thumbs down. 

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Rec

I was involved in a car accident a long time ago and was given dicofenic but suffered terrible stomach ache and toilet trouble after that I said I rather go without just My experience you good people . All the best rec

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Marshmallowmayhem

My mother was prescribed them for her severe arthritis. Hers were 100mg. I was having one hell of a monthly cycle and my mom gave me one. It worked very well. It’s also a topical. I was prescribed p3nnsaid to rub into the surgery area after everything healed from my first hip surgery. Worked well too. 

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