Jump to content

Welcome to Drugbuyersguide

rosemarypast

Good sleeping pills to knock me out

Recommended Posts

blowen

@2earls if gaba made you weird avoid trazadone. Traz screws me up big time, racing heart, smashing headache. Off label use for sleep but I haven't heard anyone say it works. 

Insomnia is the worst. good luck!

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2earls

I was really just out of it, like my mind wasn't with me. I stubbed out my cigarette directly onto the bedspread because I "thought " there was an ashtray there. Put away the TV remote in the refrigerator. Looking back I was worse off behaviorally than any drug I have ever taken. Think I had my wits about me better when I was hallucinating on LSD. At least I KNEW it was a hallucination and then I was just a dumb highschool freshman.

Anyway Gaba was bad for me and my boyfriend agreed that the chance of burning down the house could not compete with any health benefits from it. Sometimes when I take Ambien it reminds me of it a little bit.

Ambien puts me to sleep great, but I don't stay asleep. Benzos are better especially the longer lasting ones like Valium. Just can't take them a lot because I am scared of getting a new habit.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hammerblow

I wouldn’t recommend this all the time but there’s a cocktail I used to make with solpadeine max (codeine paracetamol otc med) cold water extract (use your codeine tolerance as a guide of how much)  so you’re just left with the pure codeine dissolve it in some fruit juice or something similar as it’s quite bitter and wash it down with some blues you’ll sleep like a dead body. I occasionally still do this and be okay to hit the gym at 6am the next morning. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jools
On 2/13/2019 at 8:34 AM, 2earls said:

Thanks @chchtwo I have also tried all the meds you list, but not Trazadone. I will definitely be on the lookout for it as I too suffer with insomnia.

Be very careful with trazadone. I found it knocked me out but man oh man did I have a short fuse. I stopped as I was truly appalling and got into my girlfriends grill and went berserk. Had her crying and I felt awful about it. Luckily I have never been violent to the faintest sex but I got so close. 

Can anyone please give any advice on why I am only sleeping around 4 hours and I now never dream, for around 5 months now. It’s driving me crazy and, I’m sure, not good. R.E.M. sleep heals. I’m at my wits end 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hammerblow

Hey @Jools that’s a difficult one to answer without knowing your past experience with sleeping pills. Overtime the more you use the less effective they become. So if you took someone who had never taken a nitrazepam in their life gave the four they’ll sleep like death for a good eight hours. Many of us have built up a tolerance where they cause a paradoxical effect and benzos will not put you into a REM sleep. Try restricting your use to once or twice a week or a taper to ‘reset’ and the drug will become more effective again. 

I limit my use to the above but I’ve always had problems sleeping longer then four-five hours at a time even as a teenager through to a very active bb competitor and business owner working 70 hour weeks. 

It could also be linked to your low test levels as there’s evidence to suggest it causes mild sleep apnea however they do not know why. On the other hand extremely high levels of test have been show to have the same effect so take that with a pinch of salt. I’m going to sound like a dr but dietary changes and exercise can dramatically impact your sleeping pattern. Lower your caffeine intake and even if you aren’t interested in working out go for a long walk. 

I’ve always found nip@m as the best sleeping tablet if I take them straight before bed I’ll get a good 5 hours with the cocktail I mentioned earlier in the thread but I rarely do that anymore (the cocktail bit) or with blues for a really nice high and peaceful sleep. You could try that but be careful with the codeine levels. You should know your tolerance if you’ve dabbled in the past.     

Cheers

R

 

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jools
12 hours ago, Hammerblow said:

Hey @Jools that’s a difficult one to answer without knowing your past experience with sleeping pills. Overtime the more you use the less effective they become. So if you took someone who had never taken a nitrazepam in their life gave the four they’ll sleep like death for a good eight hours. Many of us have built up a tolerance where they cause a paradoxical effect and benzos will not put you into a REM sleep. Try restricting your use to once or twice a week or a taper to ‘reset’ and the drug will become more effective again. 

I limit my use to the above but I’ve always had problems sleeping longer then four-five hours at a time even as a teenager through to a very active bb competitor and business owner working 70 hour weeks. 

It could also be linked to your low test levels as there’s evidence to suggest it causes mild sleep apnea however they do not know why. On the other hand extremely high levels of test have been show to have the same effect so take that with a pinch of salt. I’m going to sound like a dr but dietary changes and exercise can dramatically impact your sleeping pattern. Lower your caffeine intake and even if you aren’t interested in working out go for a long walk. 

I’ve always found nip@m as the best sleeping tablet if I take them straight before bed I’ll get a good 5 hours with the cocktail I mentioned earlier in the thread but I rarely do that anymore (the cocktail bit) or with blues for a really nice high and peaceful sleep. You could try that but be careful with the codeine levels. You should know your tolerance if you’ve dabbled in the past.     

Cheers

R

 

 

That’s very enlightening about benzos and no R.E.M. sleep. I am benzo dependent so I will start the Ashton manual taper. I’m on morpheus slow release and amitriptyline plus I have a biological chemo drug, infused called Rituximab. I have Wegeners granulomatosis, surgery to fuse L5 and discectomies at L4/3. Also ulcerative colitis but the biological drug has helped with that. I rattle when I walk 😂.  I did have a very bad experience that triggered this sleep crap. Long story but I fell for an extremely ill woman, thought she was the one then was played until around 6-7 weeks ago, when I found out she has been sectioned and is borderline personality. She had many more hanging onto her, no fool like an old fool mate. Screwed my entire summer up and I’m only just starting to leave the house again. Suffered depression before but not this crippling anxiety. At one point, I asked my GP if I could be placed in a unit. 

Thankfully, I am now fighting back. Thanks for the help

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
porkandbeansboy

Try googling Bluelight Blocking Glasses and the Computer Program Called F.lux. Bluelight specifically from Computer Monitors or even a light bulb will stop ALL Melatonin Production essentially in as little as 40 Minutes and it starts in 2 Minutes say if you wake up for a drink of water and turn the light on. There is a bunch of reasons why Sunlight makes us Alert and wakes us up more this is just one of those reasons. 

I have noticed a huge difference in how sleepy and tired I become when using these bluelight blocking Glasses compared to not using my Bluelight Blocking Glasses. I admit they are not exactly comfortable wearing for the recommended 2-3 Hours a night before sleeping to help you produce Melatonin more of it naturally compared to just using external Melatonin Pills which too high or to low of a Dose will make it less effective... in fact too high of a Dose which from what I Read any higher than 3MG of Melatonin will actually make it harder to fall asleep compared to 1MG give or take maybe 0.5MG of a Dose is what one should be using for best Results but it varies from person to person. I typically just take 3MG of Melatonin on the Nights I know I will fall asleep and say need to Reset my Sleep Schedule when my Sleep Schedule gets all out of whack. 

Edited by porkandbeansboy
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DoomKitty

gonna second the use of f.lux. sooooo helpful for sleep.  i also have orange/amber lights in my bedroom that emit no blue light so i dont have to wear the blueblock glasses around the house.  cant recommend it enough!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hammerblow
10 hours ago, Jools said:

That’s very enlightening about benzos and no R.E.M. sleep. I am benzo dependent so I will start the Ashton manual taper. I’m on morpheus slow release and amitriptyline plus I have a biological chemo drug, infused called Rituximab. I have Wegeners granulomatosis, surgery to fuse L5 and discectomies at L4/3. Also ulcerative colitis but the biological drug has helped with that. I rattle when I walk 😂.  I did have a very bad experience that triggered this sleep crap. Long story but I fell for an extremely ill woman, thought she was the one then was played until around 6-7 weeks ago, when I found out she has been sectioned and is borderline personality. She had many more hanging onto her, no fool like an old fool mate. Screwed my entire summer up and I’m only just starting to leave the house again. Suffered depression before but not this crippling anxiety. At one point, I asked my GP if I could be placed in a unit. 

Thankfully, I am now fighting back. Thanks for the help

You’ve not had an easy time of it mate. And you’re welcome anything I can do to help but they are some serious conditions so I’d always follow the docs advice first and foremost.

 

We’ve all been there ma man Don’t let anyone drag you down like that, the most important person is yourself and your own well being. She may have felt like the one at the time but look at it this way you caught her out after a couple of months before you were in super deep. Just focus on yourself and getting to a place where you feel healthy (relative to your condition) and healthy in your own mind. Sometimes the GP can become a crux you need to find it in yourself to forgive and move on. The only person you’ll ever need in the world is yourself, you are of the greatest importance and when that ‘one’ does come along she’ll enhance what you have already built. 

R

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
porkandbeansboy
1 hour ago, DoomKitty said:

gonna second the use of f.lux. sooooo helpful for sleep.  i also have orange/amber lights in my bedroom that emit no blue light so i dont have to wear the blueblock glasses around the house.  cant recommend it enough!

 I have been considering Buying those Lights... but I have no idea if I will be able to get them to work are they simple to use? @DoomKitty

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
porkandbeansboy

Oh wow thank you, the ones I was looking at use some kind of Bluetooth Technology or some. It allows you to change the light bulb from normal to F.lux adjustments but I think those are the "Official" F.lux Bulbs or just one of the many options I assume not sure yet but thanx again.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2earls

I've never even heard of these lights or any of the science behind it. Still learning something new here all the time! 

I wear a sleep mask, but I want to stop because it is affecting my skin. Of course I don't let them get dirty, but it is causing a slight rash that's not too appealing so it's gotta go.

@Hammerblow I agree with you that taking a benzo once or twice a week is pretty safe. I've been using them like this for quite awhile and don't have any dependence on them. Wish I could say the same for pks as I understand that they are the likely cause of my insomnia in the first place.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hammerblow

I’ve heard of the lights it seems to be the next big thing in America. I follow a few guys on Instagram who promote them that are pretty famous. I don’t know much about them tbh or the science. Just give me a pitch black bedroom and a cold bed (yip) and I’m out! 

I know @2earls it’s a bit of a viscous cycle you need the meds for quality of life but at a price it’ll take alittle by causing insomnia. Benzo’s 2 max 3 times a week (depends on stress levels)  spaced out well and you should react better and keep your tolerance low.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jools

@Hammerblow  & @2earls  thank you both. I admit that I could be viewed as an easy target due to the health crap and me being single now. I didn’t think I could fall for someone, so hard, at my age but everything seemed like it was actually some kind of cosmic event. Not sure if I’ve told you but my parents were Polish & always wanted me to be with a Polish girl. I even felt they could be helping, from some beyond the grave nonsense. 

You just never know who or what you will meet with online dating. I’m the first to admit I wasn’t very nice, when younger but if this was karmic then I consider myself paid back and then some. This was a level of crazy I’ve never known. 60 fake Facebook profiles and the same on every social media platform. So many red flags but I wasn’t thinking with my head. 

She is obviously very sick but that’s not my problem and I have to move past this. I should feel blessed that I didn’t get rinsed. It was a lesson I could’ve done without, at this particular time. Long story but lots of very difficult things to deal with & the crippling anxiety makes me feel overwhelmed and just done in. Yes, lessons learned but life can be very cruel and seem more so when you are reaching out but grab hold of a razor instead of a hand up. Thank you both. Now having counselling and hopefully that will help. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...