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GeeBee

Hey Jeff, glad you got onto the approved vendor list so fast! Since the other thread for Pharmacy Dropout was deleted, I'll summarize my experience with this vendor.

At the time I made my order, only two or three strains were in stock. I made a small order for both red horned leaf and green bali. Product was received within a few days, at which time I noticed one was short about 14 grams. I emailed about this, and within 15 minutes Jeff called and emailed me back to sort it out. Super prompt, friendly, easy communications. There were many more strains available and he quickly sent out 30g of white horned leaf MD (more expensive than the others) for free to compensate for the problem.

So far I really enjoy the red and white horns, but probably overdid the green bali the first time so will have to try that again at a lower dose. I'll definitely be ordering again soon!

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Thanks for the review GeeBee!  You sound like me with the greens......sometimes can be too much "stimulation".  I cannot wait to try this vendor's products.  He kind of "skated" through the approval process because of the fantastic information behind this company.  I am so impressed by the communication we have received from this gentleman.  He is very involved in the correct "portrayal" of kratom......as we are.  Very knowledgable  vendor and I look forward to learning from him!

Welcome to our "approved" vendors section pharmacy dropout!

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Pharmacy Dropout LLC

Hey Jeff, glad you got onto the approved vendor list so fast! Since the other thread for Pharmacy Dropout was deleted, I'll summarize my experience with this vendor.

At the time I made my order, only two or three strains were in stock. I made a small order for both red horned leaf and green bali. Product was received within a few days, at which time I noticed one was short about 14 grams. I emailed about this, and within 15 minutes Jeff called and emailed me back to sort it out. Super prompt, friendly, easy communications. There were many more strains available and he quickly sent out 30g of white horned leaf MD (more expensive than the others) for free to compensate for the problem.

So far I really enjoy the red and white horns, but probably overdid the green bali the first time so will have to try that again at a lower dose. I'll definitely be ordering again soon!


Thanks for the review GeeBee!  You sound like me with the greens......sometimes can be too much "stimulation".  I cannot wait to try this vendor's products.  He kind of "skated" through the approval process because of the fantastic information behind this company.  I am so impressed by the communication we have received from this gentleman.  He is very involved in the correct "portrayal" of kratom......as we are.  Very knowledgable  vendor and I look forward to learning from him!

Welcome to our "approved" vendors section pharmacy dropout!

Thank you, Gee Bee for helping get me on this forum, I appreciate it.  I get the feeling that I wouldn't be here without you.  CatintheHat, thank you for your kind words.  I noticed that I'm not supposed to talk about about things in the other threads, but I think I have a lot to offer in regard to Kratom legality issues, updates in the industry, etc. etc.  Hopefully there will be a time where I can share this information publicly on the forum, so that I can help spread an understanding of all things Kratom related, such as legal issues, importation procedures, industry updates, and lies that currently exist in the Kratom industry.  I think a good place to start, would be the mislabeling of products that are "not for human consumption", which technically is against the law in most cases.

I'm eager to start reading several posts, and adding my knowledge to the database at DBG, but I'm afraid to do so, because the rules state that I'm not supposed to post anywhere but here.  Any input on that subject?  I think I have the potential to contribute a lot.

Thank you for accepting me with open arms everyone.  I won't let you down.

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Yeah, thanks Gee Bee!  Lol!  And thanks Bigs210 too!  

I am due to have a discussion about you with Admin regarding your email to us with your suggestions as to how we discuss kratom/rules...i will bring it up to him at that time.  Our kratom section is new and some rules may be different for you than for the drug vendors.  I would love it if our kratom vendors could contribute to the kratom discussion.  I am so interested in what you know!  I have been since your first email to us! Great great story! In addition to Admin, 2earls and myself, we have two kratom section "supervisors" whos names are Roger and TealGreen.  i am certain you will be interacting with all of us quite a bit.  Roger is our senior kratom user here.  Teal Green and I are fairly new regular kratom users, although i dabbled a few times over the last couple of years.  

I do want to bring to your attention our rules and regs thread and also the thread entitled "helpful quoted information for new members" which are both located in the "introductions" section of the forum.  There is information there that you should get familiar with.

thanks for being here, and I will talk to you soon!

 

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GeeBee

No problem at all just putting the good word out where it's due. I didn't see how you could not be approved giving your knowledge and expertise in kratom and other herbs as well as great business ethics. It's great that you (and us in turn) support those organizations. I'll be in touch!

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GeeBee

I'm interested in that Indonesian Yellow Horned Leaf. You said you tested it, what is the profile like?

Cat, feel free to delete this if it isn't appropriate. Being a newish section I couldn't find too much on what can be posted here :P

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Pharmacy Dropout LLC

I'm interested in that Indonesian Yellow Horned Leaf. You said you tested it, what is the profile like?

Cat, feel free to delete this if it isn't appropriate. Being a newish section I couldn't find too much on what can be posted here :P

I'm not allowed to talk about it's effects on the mind and body, because that could be misconstrued as medical advice by some people in court.  Lawyers have a way of twisting words to suit their agenda, even when their agenda is mislead or misinformed.  I do not wish to tangle with the FDA, which is why we use FDA compliant packaging, and facilities for our Thunder God Vine.  Everyone else can talk about it, so long as it's not related to comparing the plant to illegal drug use, research chemical use, or abuse, or comparing it to pharmaceutical drugs, which would put me at a legal liability.  I can't directly talk about it too much because in our legal disclaimer, we sell it with no intent of use, therefore it's not sold as a consumable.

Many of you have probably seen vendors sell their Mitragyna related products as items which are not for human consumption.  While our products aren't for that either, they also aren't explicitly labeled otherwise either.  You see, that is actually breaking the law.  That is considered mislabeling a product.  People are obviously eating it, while others are making incense (yes, you can make real incense with it, I've done it), soaps, salves, balms, etc.I can tell you that I'm very picky with most things, including the Yellow Vein Mitragyna and I like the yellow quite a bit, and so do others.

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GeeBee

I understand completely and this is great information to have up here! As far as effects, I am in the same boat as you. Now, not going into use, what is yellow vein?I know the main varieties are red, green and white. Is this one of those or a cross? Is it similar to one of the three main colors? Thanks

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Oh, and I would like to add that we will be adding some rules especially for the kratom section.  We have received suggestions for same from several kratom vendors and we are currently deciding which rules are appropriate for our forum.  We already have general rules in place which are sufficient until we set forth the additional kratom section rules.  When we decide what is appropriate, we will post a "rules" thread within the kratom section and also in the general "rules and regulations" section of the forum.  Look out for them!

 

 

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I understand completely and this is great information to have up here! As far as effects, I am in the same boat as you. Now, not going into use, what is yellow vein?I know the main varieties are red, green and white. Is this one of those or a cross? Is it similar to one of the three main colors? Thanks

Yellow Veins can be several things, which makes your question a very good question.  It can be 3 things that I know of:

1.)  Mitragyna Javanica, a different species, but in the same genus.
2.)  It can also be stem and vein.  They needed a way to sell off all their stems and veins across the Ocean, so they thought up a strategy to sell it.  Stem and vein doesn't sell well.
3.)  It can be a sun bleached leaf
4.)  It can be a yellow leaf.  When plants turn yellow (take Broccoli for example), it's sometimes a sign of nutrient deficiency.
5.)  It's rumored to be a white vein of sorts.


Mine is not the Javanica.  I made sure of that before purchasing.  I don't know much more about mine, it's a mystery.  It has a slight yellow hue to it.  We have a fermented Black leaf on the way.  Man...that's going to be a mystery like none-other.

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GeeBee

Wow, that fermented black leaf does sound interesting! I love fermenting stuff like kombucha, kefir, sauerkraut etc. I will surely order that when it comes in a well as the yellow if it's still available at the time. Thanks for the info on the yellow vein!

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Wow, that fermented black leaf does sound interesting! I love fermenting stuff like kombucha, kefir, sauerkraut etc. I will surely order that when it comes in a well as the yellow if it's still available at the time. Thanks for the info on the yellow vein!

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Yeah, thanks Gee Bee!  Lol!  And thanks Bigs210 too!  

I am due to have a discussion about you with Admin regarding your email to us with your suggestions as to how we discuss kratom/rules...i will bring it up to him at that time.  Our kratom section is new and some rules may be different for you than for the drug vendors.  I would love it if our kratom vendors could contribute to the kratom discussion.  I am so interested in what you know!  I have been since your first email to us! Great great story! In addition to Admin, 2earls and myself, we have two kratom section "supervisors" whos names are Roger and TealGreen.  i am certain you will be interacting with all of us quite a bit.  Roger is our senior kratom user here.  Teal Green and I are fairly new regular kratom users, although i dabbled a few times over the last couple of years.  

I do want to bring to your attention our rules and regs thread and also the thread entitled "helpful quoted information for new members" which are both located in the "introductions" section of the forum.  There is information there that you should get familiar with.

thanks for being here, and I will talk to you soon!

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Excellent idea, IMO. I try to stay abreast of any state legislation etc. I think for us to keep kratom in it's "proper place" we need to know what is going on in the industry. I would highly recommend we start a "Keep Kratom Legal" (or something like that) thread where updates, petitions etc are posted.  Personally, I think it was the HUGE outpouring of kratom advocates giving personal testimonies, accurate information about kratom (it is NOT the "new H"!!!!!) and contact with state legislators that kept kratom legal in Florida this past session. No doubt other states will follow suit though. 

 

We need someone who is tight in the industry here to keep us informed. Sounds to me like Pharmacy Dropout fits the bill... as long as he doesn't "advertise" in said thread.  I'm sure he understands all of this.  

Again, this just JMO and ultimately it will be up to Management here at DBG Forum but I don't think a lot of people understand kratom is the target of mis informed media, hence mis informed lawmakers.  With the ever increasing NON-availability of pharmaceutics alternatives to chronic pain patients, it would be a real shame to have this natural alternative taken away. Not to sound like a doomsdayer, I think we are facing more states trying to ban our plant  

If one uses kratom, for whatever reason, I think there is an inherent responsibility to be informed. There are so many facets of this issue (head shop kratom marketing as a legal high etc) and we shouldn't bury our heads in the sand an assume it will remain legal  

I will climb off my soap box now.  (Didn't mean to lecture!!!) 

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Edit to add:  I don't need to post until I've had my second cup of coffee. Just saw we DO have a Kratom is being targeted thread. Great idea and I suggest we expand this thread as described above. Now, off to pour that 2nd cup! Lol

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