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Klonopin is awesome for me. I enjoy playing with some of the RCs as well.

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porkandbeansboy

Each B3nz0 has different effects and used for different purposes some hit different Sub-Units. I can tell you for Example T3m@z3p@m will not affect your R.E.M. Sleep enough to stop you from dreaming unlike any of the other types. There are more difference that are just to complex and far to many of them to fit it all into one single post. 

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Mary79

Temazepam (especially in the liquid "egg" form- One of the most euphoric benzos for me, up there with xanax. Not as sedating as other benzos but a lot of fun imo.

Bromazepam- By far the strongest anxiolytic benzo I've had. This benzo will have you not giving a shit about anything with just one pill. Sedative effects are very minor making this a perfect benzo for killing anxiety while keeping your mental faculties intact.

Phenazepam- Scary strong stuff. Due to the super slow onset of this benzo many people make the mistake of double dosing. Even worse is even if you don't double dose this benzo has a very strong amnesia effect. It does not take much to forget an entire day or longer. Not super sedative, overall a benzo to avoid imo.

Halcion (Triazolam)- The strongest benzo commercially available mg for mg. I found it to be quite euphoric. The problem is it is such a strong sedative that it is difficult to stay awake to enjoy it.

Nitrazepam- No euphoria, not much fun. Excellent sedative effects, probably the most sedating benzo, even beats halcion just slightly. So it isn't a fun benzo but it is excellent to have on hand for getting to sleep.

I'll leave out the common benzos as they have been talked about enough.

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screamingmimi
On 10/4/2019 at 10:54 PM, porkandbeansboy said:

Each B3nz0 has different effects and used for different purposes some hit different Sub-Units. I can tell you for Example T3m@z3p@m will not affect your R.E.M. Sleep enough to stop you from dreaming unlike any of the other types. There are more difference that are just to complex and far to many of them to fit it all into one single post. 

You seem to know a lot.  I need one to shut my brain off.  The only way I can sleep is with a benzo but I always wake at 3 and can't get back to sleep.  I can take benzos, and nothing happens.  I even vaped some killer and nothing.   Halcion works well for me for those early wakings but I need short half life so I'm not drugged.  Sonata works but I get tolerance fast.   So what would you recommend?  I will not do x@n or Klon.  RC works.  I have some jap stuff that works but not at 3 a.m.  I don't know what's going on then but nothing works.  

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porkandbeansboy

@screamingmimi When it comes to sleeping on B3nz0s they only make it "easier" to sleep by calming your mind unless your taking a huge dose or have no tolerance at all that is of course. For Me it's not until I actually try and sleep and get into bed after a bunch of C@nn@b1s and some other downers unfortunately which is to be avoided but it is what it is.

I switched from T3m@z3p@m to N1tr@z3p@m because I would get a bit of withdrawal symptoms/rebound symptoms when taking it at the same time every night 24 Hours after each Dose. Plus I couldn't stand the nightmares I was having which sucks because I'm now getting worse quality sleep on N1tr@z3p@m which last longer.

I remember without a Tolerance I got one from a friend 10MG N1tr@z3p@m and I was still stumbling to the toilet in the middle of the night 15 Hours after taking it lol. I can sleep for longer and is more sedating in relatively equivalent doses in comparison for the two.

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screamingmimi

@porkandbeansboy I have a chronic illness which causes brain inflammation.  Right now I use cannabis first and get a few hours sleep and then I did into my drugs.  I need a sleep initiator and sleep sustainer.  I take  trazodone, alternate between muslce relaxants, seroquel and antihistamine.  Top with 1mg etiz MD.   But that'll only keep me asleep till 3 or 4 and that's my problem.  For some reason vaping at that time, does nothing.  In fact right now vaping high only lasts maybe 20 minutes, even with stuff that used to F me up.   But using cannabis has helped me eliminate one fistful of drugs.

I have crazy tolerance to things.  Even carts.    I take tussin DM, it's supposed to help with tolerance.

I can see how heath ledger died.   After barely sleeping for days youl'l do anything.

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@porkandbeansboy , I had the same trouble w/ the tams after being on them for over 6 years.  I had a fukin gorilla on my back e every late afternoon.  Once I found benzobuddies, I learned what was going on.  Learned the Ashton protocols, got off tams, but I couldn’t stay clean because of that almost lifelong insomnia making me feel suicidal if untreated.  
Nitaz, no matter how high the dose, don,t work on me.

my bucket list has Doral and happy 5s.  
ativan was shot into the sole of my foot at the ER, it saved me.  Nothing else would stop me from vomiting.  Doctor scripted less than a week’s worth of them with Compazine to be dosed every 8 hours...had to be woken for doses.  Ativan did not relax me at all, but definitely had memory loss, felt senile after the bed rest period for a bit.

once tolerant, benzos are just not euphoric, except rooofeys!  But they fucked w/my tolerance to other stuff, even though it was a short once/ week time with roofies.  I had to have 3.5-5mg in hot water for sleep, otherwise I just felt drugged and not drowsy.

So, I don’t wanna be any one meds little bitch again like w/ the tams, so I try to juggle whatever I can get.

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@screamingmimi I hear you about the sleep sustaining Drug I Vape Weed to help Me Sleep that's the reason I got on flippin Benz0s daily it's for exact same reason u described I'd wake up 2-3 Hours after my the Vaped Weed had stopped working. If I had access to all the free weed I require to make Edibles which Daily PLUS instead of Vaping or more like I didn't have access until it became Legal in Canada, too little to late feel Me lol? I'm not sure if I just don't metabolize Edibles tried first time and I needlike 260MG of THC Concentrate such as Forever Phoenix and Raw THC Distillate, I use the best u can get being in Canada where it's Federally Legal and not just in each individual different Laws in each State in the U.S. which some have Edibles illegal and don't Sell them. Unfortunately Canada Federally Legalized it long after I got physical dependence on these long-term, if your using Benz0s short-term it's fine not daily.

I have a chest cold just after my stomach bug ugh! I haven't been able to Vape any Weed and I am hoping since i use 21-25% THC Conent in the Weed I Vape it makes sense I would need at least 260MG since I Vape a minimum of like 0.3G at once and like 0.6g or more a day with a Volcano Vaporizer. I use a Temperature roughly at 390 Degrees F. which gets most of the Cannabinoids. Any higher of a Temperature is to much imho and smoking would be better.

I'm trying to lower my Dose of Benz0s and you want to do it as slow as possible for the reason @bdz said how after stopping them completely you get Post Acute Withdrawal which can last for as long as 2 Years or even longer in some cases especially if you taper/wean off your Dose to quickly or cold turkey your daily Benz0 Dose.

The only way for Me to get ANY amount of Sleep during Benz0 withdrawal is to use 60MG Baclofen all at once... plus 1200MG GABAPentin which more than 150-300MG the absorption simply declines once you go past the 300MG Dose it slowly declines in absorption like 600MG is half as much etc. when you take 1200MG you only absorb 10-12% of the Dose. They make 300, 600 and 800 MG Capsules I am Prescribed 1200MG 3x a Day and it's proven and best to wait 60 Minutes if taking like 1200MG GABAPentin at once or with say 300MG Doses you can take it every 15 Minutes and I gaurentee it will make a huge difference. I am Prescribed 20MG Baclofen 4X a day total of 80MG Daily. Keep in mind nobody should do this without a tolerance to both despite GABAPentin being categorized as a "CNS Depressant" it isn't proven or doesn't at all depress your breathing but it most likely will increase the the CNS Depressant effects of any other drugs like Opioids if taking at the same time.

Problem is GABAPentin if u take it at the exact same time as Benz0diazepine Dose or Opi0id Dose it will reduce the absorption of Benz0s or Opioids a study about how M0rphine at the same time as GABAPentin reduced the absorption of M0rphine and Hydr0c0n0ne by 50% you need to wait 2 Hours before taking GABAPentin after your Benz0 or Opioid has absorbed fully in your stomach. It will increase your GABAPentin absorption without decreasing the Benz0/Opi0id absorption with M0rphine it went up by a huge up to 44% and a minimum increase in absorption by 22% plus food increases absorption by 12-22% for same reason why Stomach-Acid Reducers decrease absorption the stimulation of Stomach Acid increases it, Naproxen (Aleve) Increases absorption by 12-15%. The one problem with GABAPentin is most but not all people do not get ANY Withdrawal Symptoms I have been using for roughly 7 Years everyday at 3600MG or even more since it's as a "take as needed" I got plenty extra of it because I can go without like I have when I had my stomach bug for five days which when I kept puking up my Benzos I had withdrawal like high HR/BP but not from GABAPentin since I felt fine once I got even a small Dose without puking.

Here is a link to the Study about how GABAPentin can decrease the absorption of your 0pi0ds/Benz0s and how specifically M0rphine+Hydr0c0d0ne can increase the absorption of your GABApentin Dose plus other important stuff like verifying what I said.

https://www.gralise.com/pdf/Gralise_Prescribing_Information.pdf
 

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bdz

For anyone where it’s legal, if smoking or vaping aren’t doing it for you and you have tolerance to mj, try Hi-Fi edibles...even the bites are fuckin intense, at least if you’re not the average st0ner.  That yummy chocolate bites effects stayed in me foe an entire 24 hours...first very quickly tr1ppin ballz, couchlock, then BLASTOFF into a majorly altered state of consciousness, Hard to tell whether alive or dead, then once out of the long intense tr1p, many hours of depersonalization.

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@porkandbeansboy Gabapentin is the pain med of choice for chronic pain down here in the Miami area. It did stop my sciatic nerve pain but does not do shit for any of my back pain. So it actually does help with some sort of pain. But it is not my med of choice for chronic pain.  I don't have seizures any more since I have been taking gabapentin for chronic pain. 

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@jasperabc I got it for back pain also and it depends on the type of pain from what I have read and learned. Specifically someone I knew with very bad pain caused by neuralgia. The pain was so bad that the person was saying "I just want to cut my limb off" I said "You'll just be left with the pain on the stump of your limb you cut off lol". I told him about the things in those studies and when I did he was literally like "I can't feel any of the pain at all!" as he is smacking the limb that normally hurts on the ground.

The Medic@l effects of GABAPentin don't seem to go away with daily use but the "recreati0n@l effects" rapidly gains a Tolerance, literally quicker than any other Subst@nc3. The same dose taken the same way for a second day in a row you'll get less half the "recreati0n@l effects" which can be pretty strong if your doing right.

Daily use with Baclofen doesn't loose it's effectiveness except for less "drowsy" effects. Yet it still does have a strong enough sedating effect though still for me with daily use. I haven't noticed any Withdraw@l symptoms when stopping, yet I have read those that do experience it say it's very "mild" so YMMV. 

By themselves they don't seem to do anything for my back pain but mixed with all the other things I'm on Daily they all seem to work together and provide a stronger pain relieving effect than any single one by themselves. Yet mixing anything is not recommended, especially if you don't have tolerance to whatever your taking and even than that just makes it less risky.

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