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Alternative medication to tramz

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Clary

Wondering if anyone has tried any other medication that is an alternative for tramz. I've been taking it for a long time for pain and I want to find something else comparable to tramz. Thank you all in advance. Please PM me if you want yo keep the response private. 

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RubyRed

I wish I had an answer for you because I'm in the same boat. It's lost its potency for me so I'm tapering off but I haven't found anything similar that I could take daily. I'd appreciate suggestions too!

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Clary

Thank you for replying. I wish more people would have some feedback. Currently, I take 5 - 50 mg pills a day I used to be at 7 or 8 which is a huge achievement for me. It's so hard to taper especially on capsules. I heard of kratom, but it seems gross and messy to prepare and take. Problem is, I am more addicted to the antidepressant affect and I read you can't take  antidepressants on trams because it can screw up your serotonin. It's like a vicious cycle. The sad part is, it's what keeps me sane and nothing else has helped me feel normal. I've tried prozac and a zoloft and they didn't help. If I can find something that works, I will update. Right now I'm lost.

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RubyRed

I'm so sorry you're feeling lost. I'm on Lexapro so I have to be careful how much tram I take. I write it down just to be sure I don't over do it. You can get serotonin syndrome which can be really scary and dangerous. I probably shouldn't take any at all but for ages it was all I could get my hands on that made a dent in the pain. I'm down to two 100mg pills a day (one at night and one in the morning). I need to get up the courage to cut them in half and do two 50mg pills a day but haven't been brave enough so far. Right now, they're not doing anything for my pain, I'm just tapering down so I don't get withdrawal.

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Clary

Good luck with your taper. I can totally relate to being scared to cut down. I miss the ones you could cut in half because it's hard to go down a full 50mg. If you do have the pills you can cut in half you can spread them out throught the day to have a consistent amt in your system and eventually take 50 mg out at a time. The withdrawl is a killer, I get so bitcy and angry when I taper. The stress of it gets me the most and if shit at work is bad then I feel tempted to take an extra dose. 

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kinsona

Clary.

 I am in similar position. Medication @200mg per day for arthritis for the past decade or so. I have tried pretty much every opiate / synthetic opiate and Benz. I have not found anything that mimics the dual effects of the tramz for me.

Interestingly I find that when I taper to 150mg (Always in one dose) I don't notice a difference in potency or half-life. Closest alternative I have found, and for every  person it is very different is Diaz, but with that you lose (for me) the energetic uplift that tramz give me. (20mg) of Diaz in single dose.

Mixing the two, I won't insult the forum, is never a good thing...

PM if you wish..

Take care...

 

 

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Clary

I haven't tried diaz, but I have taken clons and they were okay but make me super drowsy and also a strange side effect,  they make me want to shoplift. It's like I would lose that fear of getting caught.  I don't shoplift anymore that was years ago when I was a teen. I do suffer from anxiety and social anxiety so I feel like anti anxiety med might help. With tramz tho, they help keep me cool and not as bad if I weren't taking them. Ive

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Monkeydluffy007

Kratom may be decent to suppliment tramad0l or even eliminate tram.  It kind of works in the same way ish.  It can be tough if you have any tolerance because you will need lots of  powder and a kratom F.S.E. would be more effective for a taper.  taste wise stomach wise it also would be easier(extracts).  Diaz i think is a bit longer acting less tiring at lower doses. Its also not as hard hitting as say xanax imo.  i know i went on a long trek taking 10 plus different anxiety and depression meds untill i found nothing works but x4n4x and had to find a new doctor that wants to start the whole process over again.  Its insane how much doctors are ok with making patients suffer/not listening to your history.  ive always felt that small amounts of opiods put me in a good place. i rode a skateboard for a good period of my life things are used and abused sore and painfull. Everyday feels like somethings wrong somewhere and they provide no help.  No pain = very happy me.  Its just sad a few people ruined it for a bunch of other honest people.

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Clary
On 5/31/2018 at 1:49 PM, Monkeydluffy007 said:

Kratom may be decent to suppliment tramad0l or even eliminate tram.  It kind of works in the same way ish.  It can be tough if you have any tolerance because you will need lots of  powder and a kratom F.S.E. would be more effective for a taper.  taste wise stomach wise it also would be easier(extracts).  Diaz i think is a bit longer acting less tiring at lower doses. Its also not as hard hitting as say xanax imo.  i know i went on a long trek taking 10 plus different anxiety and depression meds untill i found nothing works but x4n4x and had to find a new doctor that wants to start the whole process over again.  Its insane how much doctors are ok with making patients suffer/not listening to your history.  ive always felt that small amounts of opiods put me in a good place. i rode a skateboard for a good period of my life things are used and abused sore and painfull. Everyday feels like somethings wrong somewhere and they provide no help.  No pain = very happy me.  Its just sad a few people ruined it for a bunch of other honest people.

I have looked into kratom and I feel sort of lost it's very expensive for the extracts. My fav way to take anything is pills. I don't think I could drink it straight. I want to feel normal and not always thinking about taking the next dose. My body has been through a lot over the years and I'm pretty sure I have arthritis even tho I'm not that old. The doctors are now being sp strict on prescribing narcotics and cutting people competely off them. It's sad because some people really are in pain and need something to help relieve it. I might not ever come off tram completely,  I just wanted to see if there was an alternative to it. 

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MissLeah

I swear I seen something during one of my research’s that there is a RC that is close to eve make up of trams. I’ll have to go back and thoroughly search specifically

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Clary
On 4/26/2018 at 7:41 PM, RubyRed said:

I wish I had an answer for you because I'm in the same boat. It's lost its potency for me so I'm tapering off but I haven't found anything similar that I could take daily. I'd appreciate suggestions too!

Hi Ruby, I know this is an older post, but I wanted to update and say Kratom is helping me wean down. Hope you are doing well and hope this helps! I made a post on the kratom thread if you are interested. You can PM me if you want and we can chat more. 

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ROOSTERMAN

O-Desmethyltramadol (O-DSMT)

  Years ago when it was about the only RC opioid available,  I tryed my hand all over,   But today it shows up in 'gas station products' from time to time.   To me its one of the very few chemicals that have a very identifiable response.

   Happy Hunting.

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Clary
On 1/10/2019 at 10:13 PM, ROOSTERMAN said:

O-Desmethyltramadol (O-DSMT)

  Years ago when it was about the only RC opioid available,  I tryed my hand all over,   But today it shows up in 'gas station products' from time to time.   To me its one of the very few chemicals that have a very identifiable response.

   Happy Hunting.

Thanks for the recommendation! I've never heard of that before. I'll have to research that. I never knew you could find that in a gas station. I've been experimenting with kratom and honestly it has been helping so much. I've only had maybe a max of 75 mg of trams in the past 2 or 3 days from the previous 250 mg daily dose. 

I'm not interested in using opioids anymore and am a complete convert to kratom. But I do like hearing about alternatives and it's not to say I might try other alternatives. I appreciate your suggestion!

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