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Hey guys, I want to get off opiates. Its too expensive and I just want to go back to a normal life.

I can't handle the withdrawals. With work, I can't take off and how am I supposed to work when I can't even get out of bed.

My questions are:

1) When you go to a Suboxone clinic, does the doctor question or care whether you used them (opiates) legally vs illegally?

2) Does getting a prescription go on your record (labeled an addict) and you'll never be prescribed opiates again in your life (if you needed them for something such as surgery, etc?)

 

Thanks

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Packrat

jo556,

The doctor will test and confirm that there are opiates in your urine.   They generally are not concerned whether they are prescribed or not.

You are right, however, that this will go on your medical records and nowadays most doctors can access medical history, particularly prescriptions.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Packrat

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Tiredofchronicpain

I personally regret ever going on suboxone. I had been off opiates for several months when I decided to go on it. I wanted to try it for pain relief as I had built up such a high tolerance to everything else. I did feel normal while on it and did not crave anything else. Now that I no longer take it's just about impossible to get a prescription for pain relief. They assume I am an addict as it's not prescribed in the US for pain relief. I would really do some research before going on it. Not easy to get off it either.  As far as where you get the opiates, I don't believe the Dr would ask. If he/she does I would not think it would be an issue. They are more interested in treating you than concerned where you got it from. Good luck.

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jo556

Thanks guys. I ended up going on the program.

I'm already feeling 100% better. I have no cravings for pills. I was feeling like death from the withdrawal symptoms. When I finally got the Suboxone I barely had the energy to initially take it and was curled up on my floor because of extreme stomach cramps and nausea. I know it will go on my record as my state has started recording on the 1st, however they became restrictive anyway - I went to my doctor a year or so ago barely able to walk because of my back injury and they still wouldn't prescribe opioids only ibuprofen. I'm sure if I was seriously injured (such as a car crash) they would give pain medication if needed. They gave me a little card to put in my wallet to say I'm on Suboxone. 

I had no choice. I have to work and can't take off. There is no way I would be able to work feeling that bad from the WD and I was already so behind on work is was giving me major anxiety which wasn't helping.

The doctor was incredibly nice and kind. She asked where I got it from, wasn't a big deal to her. 

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13 hours ago, Tiredofchronicpain said:

I personally regret ever going on suboxone. I had been off opiates for several months when I decided to go on it. I wanted to try it for pain relief as I had built up such a high tolerance to everything else. I did feel normal while on it and did not crave anything else. Now that I no longer take it's just about impossible to get a prescription for pain relief. They assume I am an addict as it's not prescribed in the US for pain relief. I would really do some research before going on it. Not easy to get off it either.  As far as where you get the opiates, I don't believe the Dr would ask. If he/she does I would not think it would be an issue. They are more interested in treating you than concerned where you got it from. Good luck.

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you took it for a different reason though. Mine was I was tired of suffering from the WD and the VERY expensive and unsustainable habit of holding it off (I would no longer feel any "high" from the pills) I only was taking them to feel normal. It was a tough decision but decided to do it. So far I'm super happy. I actually feel like I did before addiction.

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Tiredofchronicpain

I'm really glad you're feeling better. Just because I regret it doesn't mean it's not the right choice for you. It has saved many people and I'm all for it for the right reasons. I definately should not have gone on it for pain relief. I wasn't in WD when I went on it. Best wishes for feeling normal!!!

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mttx

I got off a 16 year 24mg Suboxone habit by going to an Ibogaine clinic in Mexico. It’s one of the best things I’ve ever done for myself!!  Most Ibogaine clinics claim they can’t get you off a long acting opiate like Suboxone. But the one I went to does it regularly. It costs about $1000/day and you’ll probably need to stay at least five days or possibly longer. But they got me off Suboxone in just a day. In fact, my psychiatrist told me 10 years ago that due to my high dosage and the many years I’ve been on it, that it would likely be impossible for me to ever come off it. Even he was impressed with my results!  

Oh, I just noticed you asked about getting off opiates and going on Suboxone. At first I thought you were looking to get off Suboxone, not get on it. But Ibogaine is a great option for getting off most any other opiate as well.

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As far as doctors not prescribing opiates to someone who’s been on Suboxone, I only ran into that problem once while still on Suboxone. I went to the ER in pain from a recent rib injury. They refused to prescribe an opiate because it’s that hospital’s policy not to give opiates to a patient taking Suboxone. But I’m no longer in Suboxone and recently went back to the same hospital when I fell and badly injured my leg. They gave me a prescription for Vikes without any questions.

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1 hour ago, mttx said:

As far as doctors not prescribing opiates to someone who’s been on Suboxone, I only ran into that problem once while still on Suboxone. I went to the ER in pain from a recent rib injury. They refused to prescribe an opiate because it’s that hospital’s policy not to give opiates to a patient taking Suboxone. But I’m no longer in Suboxone and recently went back to the same hospital when I fell and badly injured my leg. They gave me a prescription for Vikes without any questions.

Interesting. I'm sure it changes state to state or hospital to hospital but I'm sure many just have a policy of no opiates WHILE on Suboxone

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1 hour ago, mttx said:

I got off a 16 year 24mg Suboxone habit by going to an Ibogaine clinic in Mexico. It’s one of the best things I’ve ever done for myself!!  Most Ibogaine clinics claim they can’t get you off a long acting opiate like Suboxone. But the one I went to does it regularly. It costs about $1000/day and you’ll probably need to stay at least five days or possibly longer. But they got me off Suboxone in just a day. In fact, my psychiatrist told me 10 years ago that due to my high dosage and the many years I’ve been on it, that it would likely be impossible for me to ever come off it. Even he was impressed with my results!  

Oh, I just noticed you asked about getting off opiates and going on Suboxone. At first I thought you were looking to get off Suboxone, not get on it. But Ibogaine is a great option for getting off most any other opiate as well.

That's awesome. Congrats on your results with Ibogaine. I did some minor reading on it and it sounded kind of scary/dangerous but seems like it worked miracles for some. 

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mttx

Supposedly a few hundred people have died over the years after being treated with Ibogaine. Now I’m no expert in the subject but I have done a lot of research on it prior to my treatment. From everything I’ve learned, if you have a healthy heart and kidneys, you’ll likely be just fine. The clinic I went to gave me an EKG prior and during the treatment.  

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4 hours ago, mttx said:

Supposedly a few hundred people have died over the years after being treated with Ibogaine. Now I’m no expert in the subject but I have done a lot of research on it prior to my treatment. From everything I’ve learned, if you have a healthy heart and kidneys, you’ll likely be just fine. The clinic I went to gave me an EKG prior and during the treatment.  

Just out of curiosity would you mind sharing which one you went to? (in case I ever decided to do something similar in the future). I watched a ton of videos about the one in Mexico (David Dardashti) today.

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On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 9:34 PM, mttx said:

I got off a 16 year 24mg Suboxone habit by going to an Ibogaine clinic in Mexico. It’s one of the best things I’ve ever done for myself!!  Most Ibogaine clinics claim they can’t get you off a long acting opiate like Suboxone. But the one I went to does it regularly. It costs about $1000/day and you’ll probably need to stay at least five days or possibly longer. But they got me off Suboxone in just a day. In fact, my psychiatrist told me 10 years ago that due to my high dosage and the many years I’ve been on it, that it would likely be impossible for me to ever come off it. Even he was impressed with my results!  

Oh, I just noticed you asked about getting off opiates and going on Suboxone. At first I thought you were looking to get off Suboxone, not get on it. But Ibogaine is a great option for getting off most any other opiate as well.

I was told EXACTLY the same thing in other words go onto another shorter acting opiate even back to (H) before they could treat me as sub/one is such a long acting opiate.I was very disappointed when I found out this as I had REAL bad problems getting off the subs and ended up having to go back on the green handcuffs  (M/done) and im down to mud teens mg wise now and intend to continue down that route👍.

I will NEVER touch sub/one again as I was on them basically as a maintenance script over 3yrs!!.

Anyone fighting opiate addiction keel it up as it is possible,it may take a few times but you'll get there❤.

Bliss. ....

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Rec

I've been on the program s for 25years when they used to taper me down it always went pear shaped but in the last 15 year's I just look at my life like this is the medication I need to take every day and if that's for the rest of my life so be it, sometimes battling your demon is just to much and I am happy to Seattle for how stable my life is and has been for a long time now,all the best people

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Toker

Hey there @Rec 

 

I'm in a similar position as yourself it seems.

I've been on MMT for the last 28 years, and i used to tell myself that i was not taking this stuff for the rest of my life.

I am on 100mls of Methadone which i take so i can function like a normal person, so i can do a days work, so i can be 'Normal'

I know there is no such thing as a 'Normal' person, but you get my drift..

About 10 years ago i admitted to myself that i Will be on it for the rest of my life. I've been on it so long now i will remain on it.

Another factor is that i don't drink alcohol, i can't stand the taste and smell of the stuff. And in my eyes everyone has there 'Thing'

It's drink for most, smack for others and so on.. 

And if i'm to be honest, i really don't mind staying on it as i'm 49 now and Done plus a few benz0z and a couple of spliffs keeps me happy.

I'm happy with my life as it is, and as the old saying goes 'If it aint broke don't try fix it'..

 

Regards,  T.

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